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Rape, Dowry and other crimes. What a handful!
Srihari Yamanoor
2004-01-13 05:42:33 UTC
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/418870.cms

Here is another intriguing horrid story I have been following:

Rape victim's lover traced

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, JANUARY 12, 2004 12:15:50 AM ]

doweshowbellyad=0;

NEW DELHI: Sajal Jain, the 32-year-old father of two, who allegedly raped his girlfriend along with four friends in Ahmedabad on New Year’s eve , has been traced by the police to an intensive care unit in a private hospital in Delhi.





Sajal Jain

On Tuesday, 24-year-old Bijal Joshi committed suicide. In a note she wrote before she hanged herself, she said, “The guilty must be punished, especially Sajal, since I loved him.”



Sajal, son of industrialist Suresh Jain, is said to be in a critical condition. Hospital authorities said it would take him 2-3 weeks to recover. The Gujarat police are waiting to question him and said if Sajal were not available in a couple of days, they would get a court order asking him to be transferred to a government hospital.



The Ahmedabad police have arrested three of the other accused — Chandan Jaiswal, Madan Jaiswal and Sugam Jaiswal. Karan Jain of Jaipur is absconding. According to the police, Sajal and Bijal had known each other for the past 18 months.



Sajal would frequently go to Ahmedabad to meet Bijal.






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Senthil Arun G S
2004-01-13 05:53:06 UTC
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Is it that, the number of rapes has increased or is it
that, the news writers care about rape incidents more
than before?

Senthil

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/418870.cms
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
Here is another intriguing horrid story I have been
Rape victim's lover traced
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, JANUARY 12, 2004
12:15:50 AM ]
doweshowbellyad=0;
NEW DELHI: Sajal Jain, the 32-year-old father of
two, who allegedly raped his girlfriend along with
four friends in Ahmedabad on New Year�s eve , has
been traced by the police to an intensive care unit
in a private hospital in Delhi.
Sajal Jain
On Tuesday, 24-year-old Bijal Joshi committed
suicide. In a note she wrote before she hanged
herself, she said, �The guilty must be punished,
especially Sajal, since I loved him.�
Sajal, son of industrialist Suresh Jain, is said to
be in a critical condition. Hospital authorities
said it would take him 2-3 weeks to recover. The
Gujarat police are waiting to question him and said
if Sajal were not available in a couple of days,
they would get a court order asking him to be
transferred to a government hospital.
The Ahmedabad police have arrested three of the
other accused � Chandan Jaiswal, Madan Jaiswal and
Sugam Jaiswal. Karan Jain of Jaipur is absconding.
According to the police, Sajal and Bijal had known
each other for the past 18 months.
Sajal would frequently go to Ahmedabad to meet
Bijal.
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Sundaresan Krishnaswami
2004-01-13 06:18:27 UTC
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Add more.. Outlook "What Indian women wants?" and write in-depth analysis
about their want for men. India Today "How good is Indian women at sex?".
Give sex a title and call it freedom of press.

Sundar

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:53:06 -0800 (PST), "Senthil Arun G S"
Post by Senthil Arun G S
Is it that, the number of rapes has increased or is it
that, the news writers care about rape incidents more
than before?
Senthil
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/418870.cms
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
Here is another intriguing horrid story I have been
Rape victim's lover traced
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, JANUARY 12, 2004
12:15:50 AM ]
doweshowbellyad=0;
NEW DELHI: Sajal Jain, the 32-year-old father of
two, who allegedly raped his girlfriend along with
four friends in Ahmedabad on New Year’s eve , has
been traced by the police to an intensive care unit
in a private hospital in Delhi.
Sajal Jain
On Tuesday, 24-year-old Bijal Joshi committed
suicide. In a note she wrote before she hanged
herself, she said, “The guilty must be punished,
especially Sajal, since I loved him.”
Sajal, son of industrialist Suresh Jain, is said to
be in a critical condition. Hospital authorities
said it would take him 2-3 weeks to recover. The
Gujarat police are waiting to question him and said
if Sajal were not available in a couple of days,
they would get a court order asking him to be
transferred to a government hospital.
The Ahmedabad police have arrested three of the
other accused — Chandan Jaiswal, Madan Jaiswal and
Sugam Jaiswal. Karan Jain of Jaipur is absconding.
According to the police, Sajal and Bijal had known
each other for the past 18 months.
Sajal would frequently go to Ahmedabad to meet
Bijal.
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Srihari Yamanoor
2004-01-13 07:36:41 UTC
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We have two good angles of discussion here. So do you believe the extra news we here is just hype. Or do you believe women also have a significant contribution to India's multiplicity of rape problems? I would like to see some good discussion on these ideas

Guys and girls (especially the girls) express yourself.

Srihari

Sundaresan Krishnaswami <sundaresan-97jfqw80gc6171pxa8y+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
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Sundaresan Krishnaswami
2004-01-13 08:57:16 UTC
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I seldom agree to the point that women are absolutely the cause to
instigate a rape. If I would think practically, it is good for women to
be equipped to safe-guard them. All in all in this gay and lesbianian
era, we should not blame the press but should change the way we accept
explicit journalism. No wonder the same outlook called "Dumbing down
duhh!" in their extraordinary argument about India.

Sundar

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:36:41 -0800 (PST), "Srihari Yamanoor"
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
We have two good angles of discussion here. So do you believe the extra
news we here is just hype. Or do you believe women also have a
significant contribution to India's multiplicity of rape problems? I
would like to see some good discussion on these ideas
Guys and girls (especially the girls) express yourself.
Srihari
Add more.. Outlook "What Indian women wants?" and write in-depth analysis
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bipin prakash
2004-01-13 16:19:58 UTC
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I would say that the fairer sex does play a role in the leading number of rapes. Earlier the number of women who ventured into the streets late at night was limited. The number of women who were scantily clad were by the handful too. Now asking women to wear more clothes.. is that justified is yet to be determined. My point is just that as women reveal more of "themselves". This simply gives a man something to ogle about. It just plants seeds of desire in some men and entices them to fantasize things which later could lead to maybe potential rapes. But the cases such as rape of ones own daughter etc they are beyond this discussion and the poor little ones have known no harm. I am not justifying either that the men are not at fault. They are at fault and a rape is a crime that deserves heavy punishment but I would like to attribute a small security concern that might be due to the skimpin
ess in clothes of women these days and also their mannerisms and maybe a pseudo western culture
outlook.

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KAUSHIKH
2004-01-14 06:35:31 UTC
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Yeah


you can now find girls wearing shorts to Nilgris the
chat corner in CBE. Very provacating.


LOL


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KAUSHIKH
2004-01-13 11:46:27 UTC
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Guys I am sorry

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Senthil Arun G S
2004-01-13 16:43:56 UTC
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I dont understand how women are responsible for a
rape, a little confused

and I also dont understand why
"How good is Indian women at sex?" is a bad article

sorry for beign dumb, wud be great if some one cud
explain

Senthil
Post by Sundaresan Krishnaswami
I seldom agree to the point that women are
absolutely the cause to
instigate a rape. If I would think practically, it
is good for women to
be equipped to safe-guard them. All in all in this
gay and lesbianian
era, we should not blame the press but should change
the way we accept
explicit journalism. No wonder the same outlook
called "Dumbing down
duhh!" in their extraordinary argument about India.
Sundar
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:36:41 -0800 (PST), "Srihari
Yamanoor"
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
We have two good angles of discussion here. So do
you believe the extra
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
news we here is just hype. Or do you believe women
also have a
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
significant contribution to India's multiplicity
of rape problems? I
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
would like to see some good discussion on these
ideas
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
Guys and girls (especially the girls) express
yourself.
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
Srihari
Add more.. Outlook "What Indian women wants?" and
write in-depth analysis
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
about their want for men. India Today "How good is
Indian women at sex?".
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
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Sundaresan Krishnaswami
2004-01-13 23:34:06 UTC
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Good question Senthil. Ofcourse it isn't a bad article, except for me it
is too bad to see it in salable point of view. If they could
research/write 30 pages on women, why not "How good is Indian men at
sex?" . Are we that bad that no one likes to know about our need too?
Will their paper sell if they write about "A report on physically
handicapped and orphans of India?". Only a few, including me will buy it.
There are *other* good things to write about women too!

But the photos portrayed in these magazines have nothing to do with Rape
or indiscrimination towards men.

If you need your paper to sell the simplest mantra you follow is "Add
rape", "Add obscene language + women & sex" - "Actual news" = India's
largest selling newspaper.

My words have nothing to do with rape, if I was unclear, sorry.
All-in-all I wanted to say don't use the freedom of press and sell women
(whom I think are worshippable) for your selfish cause.

Sundar
p.s. you can also check the amount of criticism these news magazines
earned for the articles and how many cancellations they suffered is
another story. ;)

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:43:56 -0800 (PST), "Senthil Arun G S"
Post by Senthil Arun G S
I dont understand how women are responsible for a
rape, a little confused
and I also dont understand why
"How good is Indian women at sex?" is a bad article
sorry for beign dumb, wud be great if some one cud
explain
Senthil
Post by Sundaresan Krishnaswami
I seldom agree to the point that women are
absolutely the cause to
instigate a rape. If I would think practically, it
is good for women to
be equipped to safe-guard them. All in all in this
gay and lesbianian
era, we should not blame the press but should change
the way we accept
explicit journalism. No wonder the same outlook
called "Dumbing down
duhh!" in their extraordinary argument about India.
Sundar
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:36:41 -0800 (PST), "Srihari
Yamanoor"
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
We have two good angles of discussion here. So do
you believe the extra
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
news we here is just hype. Or do you believe women
also have a
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
significant contribution to India's multiplicity
of rape problems? I
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
would like to see some good discussion on these
ideas
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
Guys and girls (especially the girls) express
yourself.
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
Srihari
Add more.. Outlook "What Indian women wants?" and
write in-depth analysis
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
about their want for men. India Today "How good is
Indian women at sex?".
Post by Srihari Yamanoor
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Senthil Arun G S
2004-01-14 07:05:58 UTC
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Mite or mite not be related to the current discussion,
but thought its an intersting one

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/419508.cms

Senthil


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