M.S. Suresh
2004-03-09 19:19:27 UTC
hello srihari, thanks for your email.
oh yeah, the discussion does seem to go on, your response bringing a smile on my face. given the context of our interactions in our e-group, i write lightly and conversationally, whilst you seem to write quite thoughtfully; may be i should get used to your way of writing.
with a hope to wake up a few others in our group, i am writing my response to you to this group. hope you don't mind.
what is unfortunate by all counts indeed is that there are a lot of people who talk big about what is wrong in/with india; all they end up doing, by doing so, is either get a commendation, a degree, a raise in the salary, or pursue other self interests - like these miss worlds and universes who at the time of getting the crowns want to do something for the orphans and destitute women, while after getting the crowns, end up becoming actresses. unfortunate indeed.
some of the people you refer to (as those who never leave india) - will never leave india; even if they do, they will never return to india; atleast this has been the case with two of my acquaintances - one is happily settled down in pennsyl., and the other is lounging in a hotel in manhattan. calling these, or the others, who return to india (after their abroad tenure/studies/...) as value addition, IMHO, would be an arrogant (if not ignorant) presumption; even if they returned, their claim to want to do good to india would suffer the same condemnation likewise.
about myself - eventhough you did not ask for it - is that my professional life gives me a more profound perspective about life abroad, than a guy who claims to have studied an MS for two years in the US/UK or who claims to be working in an IT company for ten years in the lake area. no, this is not arrogant presumption, just a practical experience that helps me deal deftly with the day to day scenarios; no, i am not referring to the ability to hire a taxi in new york or making a bargain purchase in hong kong.
likewise, during my school and college days, i have participated in countless discussion forums and inter-school/college competitions, made presentations and participated in debates - about all those profound issues that we all talk tall about. "unfortunately" they remained just that. all colourful english such as "bringing about an internal change in the attitudes and minds of the people" - pointless, unfortunately indeed.
let me ask you a really simple question: these people - arundhati roy, amartya sen et al - just who are they and what value addition do they do, apart from participating in big conferences, presenting big papers... etc., getting ferried in limousines to their 5star suites and returning to their cozy homes at the end of the day?
what happened in the world social forum in bombay might have been a noisy mayhem, a journalistic hoohah; but what dictates and runs this world is what happens in the world economic forum, amidst all those protests by those anti-globalizationists. unfortunate indeed.
has the discussion stopped here?
MSS
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oh yeah, the discussion does seem to go on, your response bringing a smile on my face. given the context of our interactions in our e-group, i write lightly and conversationally, whilst you seem to write quite thoughtfully; may be i should get used to your way of writing.
with a hope to wake up a few others in our group, i am writing my response to you to this group. hope you don't mind.
what is unfortunate by all counts indeed is that there are a lot of people who talk big about what is wrong in/with india; all they end up doing, by doing so, is either get a commendation, a degree, a raise in the salary, or pursue other self interests - like these miss worlds and universes who at the time of getting the crowns want to do something for the orphans and destitute women, while after getting the crowns, end up becoming actresses. unfortunate indeed.
some of the people you refer to (as those who never leave india) - will never leave india; even if they do, they will never return to india; atleast this has been the case with two of my acquaintances - one is happily settled down in pennsyl., and the other is lounging in a hotel in manhattan. calling these, or the others, who return to india (after their abroad tenure/studies/...) as value addition, IMHO, would be an arrogant (if not ignorant) presumption; even if they returned, their claim to want to do good to india would suffer the same condemnation likewise.
about myself - eventhough you did not ask for it - is that my professional life gives me a more profound perspective about life abroad, than a guy who claims to have studied an MS for two years in the US/UK or who claims to be working in an IT company for ten years in the lake area. no, this is not arrogant presumption, just a practical experience that helps me deal deftly with the day to day scenarios; no, i am not referring to the ability to hire a taxi in new york or making a bargain purchase in hong kong.
likewise, during my school and college days, i have participated in countless discussion forums and inter-school/college competitions, made presentations and participated in debates - about all those profound issues that we all talk tall about. "unfortunately" they remained just that. all colourful english such as "bringing about an internal change in the attitudes and minds of the people" - pointless, unfortunately indeed.
let me ask you a really simple question: these people - arundhati roy, amartya sen et al - just who are they and what value addition do they do, apart from participating in big conferences, presenting big papers... etc., getting ferried in limousines to their 5star suites and returning to their cozy homes at the end of the day?
what happened in the world social forum in bombay might have been a noisy mayhem, a journalistic hoohah; but what dictates and runs this world is what happens in the world economic forum, amidst all those protests by those anti-globalizationists. unfortunate indeed.
has the discussion stopped here?
MSS
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